Pop star and former ‘American Idol‘ judge Katy Perry did a bit of reflecting on a recent ‘Call Her Daddy‘ podcast episode.

The 39-year-old singer, who is a mom to 4-year-old Daisy Cooper, talked a little about her experience growing up in a strict, religious household. She wasn’t a huge fan of all the rules, “It was a little volatile,” she admitted.

And while her relationship with her parents has certainly been up and down, she respects them now more than ever, thanks to her being a parent herself.

We know she’s slightly joking with that last line, but really… how did they do it? You mean to tell us that kids would just sit at a restaurant and color on a piece of paper?

One thing’s for sure, Katy has so much respect for her mom and all the sacrifices she made…

A lot of people probably feel this way after growing up and starting a family of their own. You really start to see just how much your own parents cared about you.

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