Beyonce and Jay Z are fairly private when it comes to their family. Their firstborn, Blue Ivy, is starting to enter the spotlight a little, joining her mom on tour.

But when it comes to Beyonce and Jay Z’s 6-year-old twins? Well, not much is known. During a new interview with E! News, Beyonce’s mother, Tina, gave everyone a little update on her grandkids, Sir and Rumi.

You see, this is why we wouldn’t talk about kids or grandkids if we were famous, because you know people are going to be like, “Wow! It sounds like she doesn’t even like Sir. She just gushed over Rumi the whole time!”

We’re sure Tina thinks both of them are equally amazing.

It’s worth noting that Rumi broke a musical record previously held by Blue Ivy, becoming the youngest woman to chart on the Billboard Hot 100.

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