Kelly Clarkson and Kylie Kelce had a pretty insightful conversation on Kelce’s podcast, Not Gonna Lie, earlier this week.

In the episode, which was released on Thursday, March 27, the two moms shared parenting stories and bonded over not being the perfect parent.

Clarkson admitted she makes it a point to let her kids know she messed up and is sorry for it.

That is SO important, especially now that we all live in this social media controlled world. We see people trying to project “perfection” all the time. It’s up to us to teach our kids that mistakes happen, and when they happen, the best thing you can do is acknowledge them, apologize, and move on.

Clarkson, who is mom to daughter River Rose, 10, and son Remy, went on to add, “I just think this whole filtered perfection thing, that’s not real. I think that being honest is the best.”

We could not agree more, and for what it’s worth, Kelce also agreed with her and practices similar techniques with her children…

Not exactly the same thing, as this could make kids think it’s their fault when someone treats them badly, but hey, no parenting method is perfect!

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